Bosnia's society is one of fear, sociologist and university professor Slavo Kukic told N1 on Wednesday, while journalist and diplomat Zlatko Dizdarevic noted that the country has reached full circle in the process of creating a society of imbeciles (“debilizacija”).
According to Zlatko Dizdarevic, Bosnia has reached three full circles, the circle on the destruction of the country, the one on the destruction of the society and the third one on making Bosnia into a society of imbeciles.
“The country was not hard to destroy because it was made as an artificial construction in its foundation. Small people have found their way into the empty space of a dysfunctional country. The smaller the man, the bigger his ambition. Judging from today's perspective, it seems to me that the destruction of the society was a project made by the people called political oligarchs,” Dizdarevic said. “This division of the society is a division into three parts, it's a division of a common goal.”
He added that a complete generation of the Bosnian society grew up under a completely different mind-frame, different moral code, different sense of value, brainwashed into thinking that ‘the other’ is the enemy.
“We have a situation where when our national football team loses, half of the country is happy about it. We do not have the same flag across the country, we do not have the same organization of the state. We have reached full circle on creating the society of imbeciles, but also on the administrative system, on our relationship with knowledge, science, quality, and the result is that we have run out of what could hypothetically be the substance that would remedy the situation,” Dizdarevic added.
Sociologist Slavo Kukic, on the other hand, spoke about the ways to fix this situation and who could fix it.
“We shouldn't expect anyone to fix the situation in our own home. We shouldn't expect this from the world. It's also true that world power centres took it upon themselves and in the very beginning made a completely illogical situation in Bosnia and Herzegovina. They made the same people responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths their partners in building a different Bosnia. But when you analyse those people you can only expect them to continue to implement their wartime goals through different means,” Kukic noted.
“We went through a historic rape (of our rationale) which, through years, has changed our system of values,” Kukic said.
As evidence, he said that the first man on top of the state pyramid (Bosnian Serb leader and Presidency member Milorad Dodik) denies the country he presides over and no one finds this odd.
A normal reaction, he added, from some 10-15 years ago would be to lock such people up, but that is not the case today.
Speaking about the situation with Bosnia's NATO accession process, both guests agreed that when the international community decides it is time – Bosnia will become a NATO member state.
“We're not a hot topic any more. The moment we become a hot topic, that's when they'll intervene. We're very close to a US intervention in Bosnia. It's ridiculous, from their point of view, that Bosnia won't become part of NATO. That some Dodik refuses it. That same America will make a deal with Russia and Serbia will get the shorter end as it did three times in the past 100 years when they (Russia) betrayed them in critical situations, not to mention the bombing of Belgrade,” Dizdarevic told N1's Amir Zukic. “They (the US and Russia) are making deals as we speak, it's just not our turn.”
Kukic agreed with this conclusion.
“The moment they decide to finish this story in Bosnia, rest assured, they will finish it over the course of a meal. It's just that they're not in a hurry and that we haven't come up yet on their agenda,” Kukic concluded.
